Two LoRa profiles on one radio
radio2 lets one LoRa transceiver alternate between two frequencies or modulation
settings. It is useful for listening to two networks, or keeping your usual
channel available during a LoRa firmware update.
There are at most two active profiles. tempradio temporarily replaces
radio; tempradio2 temporarily replaces radio2. These are time-shared receive
windows, not simultaneous receivers. Receiving or transmitting a packet on one
profile makes the other unavailable until that packet finishes.
The second-profile commands are shared by repeater, Companion, room server, sensor and standalone terminal-chat firmware with a LoRa radio. ESP-NOW-only devices reject LoRa profile commands. KISS is a raw host-controlled modem and does not expose these Mesh CLI commands or Mesh retry queues.
Quick setup
Keep the primary channel configured with radio, then add the second:
set radio2 910.5,500,8,5,rx
get radio2
get radio2.status
The tuple is frequency in MHz, bandwidth in kHz, spreading factor, coding-rate
denominator, mode, optional preamble in symbols. 5 means coding rate 4/5.
| Mode | Receive on profile 2 | Transmit on profile 2 |
|---|---|---|
rx |
Yes | Only infrastructure replies explicitly configured with tx.reply ... force |
rxtx (also rx&tx) |
Yes | Yes |
off |
No | No |
For transmission on both permanent profiles:
set radio2 910.5,500,8,5,rxtx
The same encoded message is queued separately for each allowed transmit profile. Each has its own direct/flood retry slots and channel-busy backoff. A forwarding echo on one profile cannot cancel the other profile's retry. Packet storage and the physical transceiver's airtime budget are shared; exhausted queues can still drop packets.
Keep the main channel during an update
set tempradio2 910.5,500,8,5,rxtx,120
get tempradio2
This enables the second profile for 120 minutes (2 hours). Locally generated
LoRa OTA requests use the temporary second profile. Infrastructure OTA responses
follow tx.reply below (both TX-capable profiles by default). Ordinary local traffic stays
on the primary profile by default. Use an OTA-capable build and the usual OTA
setup on every participating node; a temporary profile does not add OTA support
to firmware built without it.
Local settings take effect after a short reply allowance. On repeaters, immediate
remote radio2/tempradio2 changes (including off) wait until their exact reply
copies finish, with at least one successfully transmitted. A reply that cannot
be queued or whose copies all fail cancels the change. Queued replies have a
five-minute deadline; an already-transmitting copy may finish under the normal
radio watchdog. This confirms transmission, not reception by the remote client.
Permanent remote changes are prepared in an uncommitted file before replying;
the saved configuration is replaced only after reply transmission. If that
replacement fails, the old channel remains active and the commit retries.
Local get radio2.status reports this pending state. Roles without the tracked remote
reply path require local USB for these immediate secondary-profile changes.
Temporary periods and schedules live in RAM and disappear on reboot. Waiting for a reply does not extend a temporary lease. Timer expiry also uses monotonic time, so setting the clock backwards cannot extend a temporary session.
Repeater, room-server, and sensor replies
These roles default to tx.reply both: locally generated replies are queued
on radio and on an active radio2 that permits TX. This includes replies to
remote CLI/login/telemetry requests, ACKs, returned paths, delayed GPIO command
completion, room subscription posts, and locally served LoRa OTA catalog,
manifest, data, proof, and leaves responses. Each copy has its own retry state.
Forwarded packets, periodic adverts, sensor pushes, and OTA requests continue
to use the normal crossing rules.
get tx.reply
set tx.reply both
set tx.reply both force
set tx.reply radio
set tx.reply auto
| Choice | Replies transmit on |
|---|---|
both |
Primary plus an active rxtx second profile. Default. |
radio |
Primary only. |
radio2 |
Second only; no primary fallback. |
auto |
Normal radio2.cross behavior, including permanent/temporary isolation. |
off |
Neither profile. This also suppresses remote CLI replies and ACKs. |
Append force to both or radio2 to allow these replies on an active
second profile configured as rx. Without force, rx remains receive-only.
Sending the command again without force removes the override. It never turns
on radio2 off, changes the saved rx mode, or enables ordinary forwarding/TX
there. Existing crossover packet filters still apply to the extra copy.
The explicit choices override radio2.cross, including off and mixed
permanent/temporary profiles. radio means the active primary profile,
including tempradio; radio2 also includes an active tempradio2.
For example, an OTA source can retain its normal channel while allowing OTA
and management responses on a temporary receive profile:
set tempradio2 910.5,500,8,5,rx,120
set tx.reply both force
The source must have OTA support and an active temporary-radio session as
usual. A node fetching an update still needs rxtx for its OTA requests.
Forcing replies does not change OTA's receive gates, scan timing, or preambles.
This setting survives reboot; older saved profiles adopt both without force.
The getter reports when the chosen second profile cannot transmit. Already
queued replies retain their choice; disabling/changing a profile invalidates
stale queued packets. A parameterized repeater tempradio command waits for
both admitted reply copies to drain before changing the primary settings;
at least one must transmit successfully. Those tracked replies omit alternate
paths and transport retries so no late success copy can outlive the handoff.
Queue capacity and the shared transceiver's airtime budget still limit delivery.
OTA data/proof admission counts both copies against its queue credit and
reserves receive capacity before allowing the response.
Companions use the per-contact/channel choices below; tx.reply is an
infrastructure setting.
Companion messages on both profiles
To send ordinary Companion messages on both radio and an active tempradio2,
configure the temporary profile in rxtx mode and enable crossing:
set radio2.cross on
get tempradio2
get radio2.cross
get radio2.status
rxtx permits transmission on the second profile; radio2.cross on copies new
messages between the two profiles. TX=a,b reports primary and secondary
transmit counts. Crossing also applies to OTA traffic.
The crossing setting is saved and remains enabled after the temporary session
ends or the node reboots. Run set radio2.cross auto to restore the default
isolation between permanent and temporary profiles. The firmware picker's
Companion tempradio2 instructions include both choices and the status commands.
Companion TX routing by contact or channel
Companions can save a transmit choice for each contact and each configured channel. The commands apply to messages sent from the phone app, USB/BLE/TCP Companion clients, and the text terminal:
set tx.user "Alice Jones" radio2
get tx.user "Alice Jones"
set tx.channel 0 both
get tx.channel 0
set tx.channel #wardriving radio
get tx.channel #wardriving
Channel indices match the app and the terminal's channels list; Public is
normally slot 0. Names must match exactly, including capitalization and any
leading #. Quotes always select a literal name, so "1" is a channel named
1, while unquoted 1 selects slot 1. Quote contact names beginning with
key: to distinguish them from public-key selectors. Duplicate names are
rejected: use the channel index or a contact's public key instead.
| Choice | Locally addressed traffic transmits on |
|---|---|
auto |
Existing behavior, including radio2.cross and temporary-profile isolation. This is the default. |
radio |
The primary profile only. |
radio2 |
The second profile only; sending fails if it is off or RX-only. |
both |
The primary profile and the second profile whenever the second is enabled for TX. |
off |
Neither profile for this contact/channel. Reception stays enabled. |
Explicit choices override radio2.cross, including off and the isolation
between a permanent and temporary profile. They do not turn on radio2 or
change its rx/rxtx mode. For example, leave radio2.cross auto and use
set tx.channel 0 both to send Public messages on both radio and an active
tempradio2, while other channels keep their default routing.
radio means the currently active primary profile, whether permanent or
tempradio; radio2 similarly includes tempradio2. There are still at most
two active profiles. Getters show the saved choice and active= for newly
initiated messages with the current profile configuration. A temporarily
unavailable second profile is reported explicitly.
Contact selection uses the full stored public key after resolving a unique
name or key prefix. It never routes by the short on-air destination hash.
For key selection, prefix 12–64 hexadecimal digits (whole bytes) with key::
set tx.user key:0123456789AB radio2
get tx.user key:0123456789AB
Replace the example prefix with your contact's key; use more digits if it is
ambiguous. get tx.user and get tx.channel report override counts and query
syntax. To return a target to the global behavior:
set tx.user "Alice Jones" auto
set tx.channel 0 auto
A user's setting covers addressed texts, login/CLI/telemetry requests, replies,
ACKs, and returned paths to that contact. Thus off also prevents ACKs to
that contact. Channel settings cover group text and group data, including
an explicitly routed group datagram. Contact choices do not filter other
people's messages inside a group channel. Adverts, raw traces, raw packets,
and OTA packets without a contact/channel destination retain global routing.
Packets and their retries already queued retain the choice used when created;
changing or disabling the radio profile still invalidates stale queued work.
Message timeout estimates use the selected profiles' airtime, independently
of the scanner's current receive profile.
Choices survive reboot and normal phone-app updates to the same contact or channel key. Replacing a channel's key or deleting/replacing a contact clears its choice. They use reserved bytes in existing saved records, so record sizes and the phone protocol are unchanged. Older firmware ignores these bytes and may reset the choices when it saves the records.
Choose whether traffic crosses between profiles
get radio2.cross
set radio2.cross auto
set radio2.cross on
set radio2.cross off
| Active primary | Active secondary | auto (default) |
on |
off |
|---|---|---|---|---|
radio |
radio2 |
Cross | Cross | Isolated |
tempradio |
tempradio2 |
Cross | Cross | Isolated |
radio |
tempradio2 |
Isolated | Cross | Isolated |
tempradio |
radio2 |
Isolated | Cross | Isolated |
These are the global rules used by Companion targets set to auto; an explicit
contact/channel choice above overrides crossing for its own outbound packets.
Ordinary crossing respects rx. The infrastructure-only tx.reply ... force
override above permits locally generated replies on that profile.
With crossing allowed, a packet received there may still be forwarded on the
primary profile. Existing routing, forwarding and packet-filter settings apply.
An RX-only tempradio2 also blocks locally generated OTA requests under
auto or off; they do not fall back to the normal primary channel. Use rxtx
for a fetching node that needs to exchange requests and data. Infrastructure
OTA responses follow tx.reply independently of this crossing table.
Preamble
Append the preamble to the end of a command:
set radio2 910.5,500,8,5,rxtx,88
set tempradio2 910.5,500,7,5,rxtx,120,128
set radio 909.5,62.5,7,5,32
set tempradio 909.5,62.5,7,5,120,32
Existing primary radio, tempradio, radioat and tempradioat commands accept
the optional trailing preamble where those primary commands are supported by
the role. Getters include the preamble. Omit it, or use auto/0, to calculate
it automatically. Explicit values are used as entered, subject to the radio's
limits and safe airtime arithmetic.
Automatic dual-profile preambles round up to a multiple of eight, with a
32-symbol minimum. Each idle scan starts with 4.6 symbols on the slower
profile, then spends the remaining budgeted time on the faster profile,
also with a 4.6-symbol floor. Slower
means a longer LoRa symbol (2^SF / bandwidth), regardless of profile number.
The slower preamble sets the return deadline. The calculation allows two slow
visits within that preamble, reserving 0.6 ms per switch and 0.3 ms of main-loop
margin. Fast-channel transmit preambles include sixteen acquisition symbols.
For a primary SF7 / 62.5 kHz profile:
| Secondary profile | Automatic secondary preamble | Previously tested explicit preamble | Primary preamble |
|---|---|---|---|
| SF9 / 500 kHz | 32 | 32 | 32 |
| SF8 / 500 kHz | 88 | 64 | 32 |
| SF7 / 500 kHz | 64 | 80 | 32 |
With preamble 32 on that slower profile, its visit is 9.421 ms and the faster visit is 21.847 ms, plus the actual switching time. Increasing the slow preamble also increases the time available on the fast channel. If the symbols are equal in length, the primary profile goes first. Detected packets hold the current channel until reception finishes.
The SF8 / 500 kHz value also retains the measured 88-symbol floor from the production V4/XIAO tests, where 72 and 80 each missed a packet. The explicit values come from the production validation: the final fast-channel attempts each received 50/50 packets at 4.8 slow symbols. Automatic values use the switching and loop-jitter allowances below. Those explicit-preamble tests used the older 4.8-symbol policy; they do not validate the new 4.6-symbol slow dwell / 0.3 ms reserve. The 4.6/0.3 ms two-profile bench received 197/200 at SF7/62.5 + SF8/500 with explicit 32-symbol preambles. The newer four-channel 5.1/6.1/7.7 tests also had misses, so this is a timing policy, not a claim of zero packet loss. The automatic fast preamble covers the blind interval during the slow visit, both switches and the acquisition margin. These settings do not guarantee reception during overlapping packets or long pauses in the firmware loop. Transmitters on each channel also need a long enough preamble. Changing the receiver's setting does not lengthen packets sent by other nodes.
Chirp calculator and warnings
get radio2.timing (alias get radio.timing) reports the active pair in
radio,radio2 order: dwell in chirps, recommended preambles in symbols, and
the switching/loop allowances. For SF7/62.5 on radio and SF7/500 on radio2:
> chirps=4.60,85.34; need=32,64; switch=600us; loop=300us (estimate); WARN recommended preamble: radio2=64
WARN recommended preamble identifies each profile whose recommendation
exceeds the standard 32 symbols or its explicitly selected value. For example,
with SF7/62.5 on the primary profile, set radio2 910.5,500,7,5,rx,32 replies:
OK - radio2 rx; preamble=32; WARN recommended preamble: radio2=64; short override: radio2
Successful set radio ... replies also include the recommended preamble for
each affected profile, calculated with the requested settings. A short override
note identifies an explicit value below the estimate; it is not silently
rewritten. Warnings are also included in profile settings/getters, scan info,
temporary settings and schedule acknowledgments. off disables the dual-profile
warning. A timing readout does not change settings or transmit a packet.
The shared RadioProfiles::calculateChirpTiming() function accepts both tuples,
optional visit times in microseconds, a per-switch allowance and loop margin.
Using microseconds throughout:
T[i] = 2^SF[i] * 1000 / BW_kHz[i]
slow = profile with the longer T (radio wins ties)
L[slow] = max(requested_visit_us[slow], ceil(4.6 * T[slow]))
L[fast] = max(requested_visit_us[fast], ceil(4.6 * T[fast]))
O = 2 * switch_us + loop_margin_us
C = L[radio] + L[radio2] + O
P[slow] = round_up_to_8(max(32, 2 * C / T[slow]))
P[fast] = round_up_to_8(max(32, (L[slow] + O) / T[fast] + 16))
The previous SF8/500 versus SF7/62.5 measured 88-symbol floor remains in force. Automatic selection uses the minimum visits to choose a preamble, then allocates the fast visit from half the slow preamble's duration. Diagnostics feed the actual allocated visits back into the same function, including longer visits caused by an explicit slow preamble. Too-short slow preambles that cannot fit both minimum visits remain rejected by the existing configuration validation.
The automatic scheduler uses these same role-specific minima and computes:
slow_dwell = ceil(4.6 * T[slow])
fast_dwell = max(ceil(4.6 * T[fast]),
floor(P_configured[slow] * T[slow] / 2 - slow_dwell - O))
For the tested SF7/62.5 + SF8/500 pair with slow preamble 32, this yields
9,421 us slow and 21,847 us fast (42.67 fast chirps). Swapping radio and
radio2 swaps the allocations automatically. The 0.3 ms reserve is not a sleep.
The calculator accepts board-specific allowances, but production scheduling uses the requested 600 us per switch plus 300 us per cycle. This is a nominal fast-switch allowance, not a worst-case bound. Diagnostics use the larger of 600 us and the observed maximum switch time; an overrun increases the warning estimate without automatically changing wire preambles or saved configuration. Recent V4 tests peaked at 836 us (827 us in the 4.6/0.3 ms run), and Indicator reached 8428 us: both can exceed the nominal allowance. The model preserves two slow-profile return opportunities and the existing 16-symbol fast-profile acquisition allowance. These are conservative policies, not a fitted success curve, and neither packet overlap nor arbitrary application stalls can be made safe by a finite preamble recommendation.
See the implementation and validation notes.
Schedule the second profile
Use UTC Unix timestamps (seconds):
set radioat2 910.5,500,8,5,rxtx,START[,PREAMBLE]
set tempradioat2 910.5,500,8,5,rxtx,START,END[,PREAMBLE]
get radioat2
get radioat2 1
get tempradioat2
get tempradioat2 1
del radioat2 1
del tempradioat2 all
Replace START, END and the optional PREAMBLE with numbers; omit the square
brackets. Each schedule family has four slots. Times must be in the future and
within 24 days. Overlapping temporary second-profile sessions are rejected.
radioat2 changes the saved second profile when it starts; tempradioat2
restores the saved profile at its end. Pending schedules do not survive reboot.
Return to one profile
set radio2 off
This saves the disabled state and cancels all second-profile temporary activity and schedules.
set tempradio2 off
This ends temporary second-profile activity, cancels its temporary schedules and
restores saved radio2. If the saved second profile is off, this returns to one
profile. Packets/retries bound to an expired or changed session are discarded.
Power saving and diagnostics
Dual mode suspends RX power saving and MCU idle sleep so receive visits can run
promptly. The saved RX power-saving setting returns when profile 2 is off.
The scan uses normal receive, following the
CAD/RX measurements, with the updated 4.6-symbol dwell on the slower
channel, followed by the remaining fast-channel visit. It does not use CAD for scanning.
The separate CAD check before an initial transmission still follows cad.
SX1262 dual-profile mode keeps the oscillator running in XOSC standby between visits, so each retune does not need to restart the TCXO. It restores the prior standby policy when returning to one profile, together with the saved RXPS setting. Radio reinitialization temporarily uses RC standby until the TCXO has been configured again. Other radio families retain their existing behavior. This does not disable the TCXO supply or its initial startup delay, and it is not conditional on 500 kHz bandwidth. Keeping the oscillator on uses additional power during the short standby intervals.
The requested 0.6 ms switch budget is a nominal scheduling allowance, not a forced settling delay or a measured worst-case bound. The earlier standalone keep-warm scan experiment averaged about 1.19 ms of overhead per hop (scan-cycle time minus both receive windows, divided by two). That experiment used a leaner receive path; it is not a measurement or guarantee of the production implementation. Measure the target board before shortening its timing margins or transmit preambles.
The production-path XIAO timing test measured 1.434 ms average / 1.467 ms maximum with warm standby, compared with 3.166 ms average using RC standby: about 1.732 ms saved per hop. It covered 12,000 retunes across SF7/8/9 at 500 kHz paired with SF7/62.5 kHz. These measurements include observing BUSY low, but exclude application/UI scheduling and are not a packet-delivery qualification or a guarantee for other boards, especially those using I/O expanders.
A same-image follow-up batching SF/BW/CR into one modulation command reduced
warm switching from 1.444 ms to 1.158 ms average (batched maximum 1.198 ms),
saving another 0.286 ms / 19.8%. RadioLib's modulation caches and LDRO
calculation remain synchronized; frequency, preamble, packet guards, and RX
restart are unchanged. A later HIL-only screening
tested redundant standby/IRQ/buffer/packet setup and SPI transfer changes.
Its fastest candidate measured 0.535 ms mean on XIAO but 8.203 ms on the
Indicator, whose radio GPIOs go through an I2C expander. The validated production
implementation now opts XIAO S3 WIO and Indicator LoRa into buffered 8 MHz SPI
and a guarded fast-RX state machine. It skips redundant standby, IRQ mapping,
buffer-base writes and modem queries only during an owned continuous RX-to-RX
retune. Preamble/packet parameters (including the IQ workaround), stale-IRQ
clearing, RX commands and BUSY waits remain. TX, CAD, sleep, reset, RXPS and
failed commands revoke reuse; failed RX startup rolls back the profile.
Sleep entry uses standby and wake restores the existing TCXO voltage/delay.
Other variants do not opt in to faster SPI or the fast-RX state machine.
Within a valid owned fast-RX retune, identical acknowledged SF/BW/CR/LDRO
settings now reuse the previous modulation command: frequency-only hops omit
SetModulationParams (0x8B). A changed effective LDRO value also forces a write,
including when automatic LDRO policy changes. Ordinary setters and lost RX
context invalidate that acknowledgement; initial setup, reset, sleep, failed
commands and full RX setup conservatively reapply the tuple. Frequency,
preamble/packet setup, IRQ clearing and BUSY checks are unchanged. This follow-up
has same-image hardware measurements:
frequency-only hops averaged 0.452 ms on XIAO and 7.601 ms on Indicator.
The mixed-bandwidth timing figures above predate it. Four-channel SF6 scans
still missed packets; faster switching is not proof of loss-free acquisition.
See production and USB validation
for current measurements, lifecycle tests and limitations.
The Indicator result also shows that the
nominal 0.6 ms allowance is not an upper bound for every board; its scheduling
and preambles need board-specific qualification. Measured overruns raise the
recommended preambles shown by the CLI without rewriting configured values.
Single-channel noise-floor calibration and RSSI interference comparison are suspended while scanning. Retries use the radio's preamble/header activity indicators. LR2021 extra-SF side detectors are suspended and restored as well.
get radio2.status reports the active second-profile mode, MeshCore RX/TX counts
for each profile, switch count, switch failures, longest measured switch and
both effective preambles. A long switch time or rising error count indicates
that the chosen settings need investigation on that board.
get radio2.scan shows which profile goes first, the two idle receive-window
lengths in microseconds, and both effective preambles. It reports off in
single-profile mode.